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Old 05-31-2011, 09:02 PM
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It was said about Kodachrome, and now it's being said about all color slide film and even color film in general: Use it while you still can!

An associated Press article broke today on the topic of film photography. The first photograph in the article? Read it and find out!

Link: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=136795151

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Old 08-04-2011, 01:52 AM
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An interesting,and somewhat disturbing article in the Tuesday, 2 August edition (Report on Business) of The Globe and Mail (Canada) re Eastman Kodak's financial woes. Reading the article, I found myself wondering when someone at Harvard Business School will decide to write a case study about EK. Maybe something along the lines of " The Death of Another American Institution," or "How to Meet and Mismanage Technological Change...". I think when EK eventuially kills off Ektachrome (or surrenders the film segment to Fuji), it will be time give up color shooting.
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Old 08-11-2011, 04:49 PM
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I'm an artist and I'm not all that business savvy -- much to my regret at times, I suppose. So my questions may appear rather naive. But isn't it sort of commonplace whenever a company gets into the sort of financial problems Kodak finds itself in that it becomes an attractive take-over target? I mean, probably the most important thing Kodak has going for it is its name, and along with that, its legacy.

I'm thinking that this has been considered already but that your typical tech company wouldn't know how to fit Kodak into their operations and make money at it. But what about somebody who is still very active in the film-production industry, like Fuji? Or is even Fuji trying to figure out ways to stop the bleeding?

I'm just really troubled by all this, having grown up and matured using film, most of which was Kodachrome, by the way, then much later switching to digital. I'm like many others -- I really like what digital has to offer. But I also have a lot film gear that I love and I can't stand the thought of it being permanently obsolesced. It's akin to never being able to drive ones favorite car again because one cannot obtain the fuel for it.
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:14 PM
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A number of analysts have suggested that Kodak might jettison its film manufacturing division sometime in the near future; I have heard estimates of sometime within the next six to eight years. This despite a resurgence of interest in the analog medium - particularly black and white film.
Insofar as the remainder of the company? EK's foray into the digital realm has produced, at best, mixed results. The only real "bright light" would seem to be in sensor manufacture: EK is currently producing the sensor for Leica's M9 and M9P rangefinders; surely an impressive accomplishment. Where this will lead in the future is, of course, an open question.
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@ cooltouch - I think we could speculate all day on what might happen to Kodak's film division. As you say, if Kodak can't make it pay, how might anyone else?
If you consider the other two big players...Fuji seem to have all the know-how and equipment they need to make high quality color and B&W films, while Ilford are B&W specialists (for which, again, they have the know-how and equipment) and have indicated that they have no interest in making color materials.
The smaller players (Foma, Efke, etc.) have their small niche markets.
So, if Kodak withdraw, it might be that the sales just move to the other manufacturers with no formal takeover.

@KR4 - Kodak making sensors for the Leica....clearly an indication of quality, but how many M9's are sold in a year? From a business point of view, might it not be more impressive to be making them by the thousands for the kind of video and digital gear which the average ordinary guy can afford and buy? (Maybe they do, IDK?)

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Old 08-16-2011, 12:53 PM
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Points well taken, Richard. What I find curious is that, given the technological prowess involved, EK has not been more aggressive in their efforts as a sensor manufacturer. I found out about the Leica connection strictly by accident; I do not find any mention of EK's success in sensor manufacture anywhere on the company's website. And if the M9 sensor is an indication of the company's current capabilities, should not the company be going head-to-head against Sony and others?
You are correct in noting the limited market for the M9 (I am currently struggling with the idea of parting with $7000.00 - more or less - to buy a piece of technology that may well be dated in two or three years...); however, as a kind of "generic component," the sensor could and should be marketed more widely. Doing so, given the ever increasing popularity of the digital medium, might well contribute to EK's long-term financial health. Sort of begs begs the question of what exactly the bean-counters in Rochester are thinking...
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however, as a kind of "generic component," the sensor could and should be marketed more widely.
Couldn't agree with this more. This statement jogged my memory about something I read very recently, and sort of goes to the heart of where a "generic component" technology could ultimately take Kodak.

I've been reading up on some of the rumors about the up-coming Nikon D800 DSLR, Nikon's latest "affordable" full-frame model (with really BIG quotes), and that it is supposed to feature interchangeable sensor technology. Not unlike the way a motherboard can have its CPU or memory swapped out for later, i.e., better, iterations. Not really on topic to this discussion, other than pointing out the obvious, I suppose. If Kodak wants to be a player in this field, it seems to me they'll have to keep up with all ramifications of it.

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You are correct in noting the limited market for the M9 (I am currently struggling with the idea of parting with $7000.00 - more or less - to buy a piece of technology that may well be dated in two or three years...); however, as a kind of "generic component," the sensor could and should be marketed more widely.
Except if it's only (to our knowledge) used in a $7000 camera, perhaps that's because while it's very good it's also very expensive.

Which brings up the question: Should Kodak be aiming for yet another turn-into-commodity-eventually market, or should (and are) they be concentrating on professional equipment (ie, beyond the M9. on sensors for the film industry and such)? Recall the video we saw the link to a month or two ago about the issues with digital sensors that fly on airplanes from Kodak, that was a presentation to the film industry about film industry digital cameras.

Pro equipment supports high quality at high prices. Consumer equipment usually doesn't.
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Found this online while doing the old mindless surfing routine:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...-real-m-a.html

As I stated in an earlier post, it really gives one pause as to what is happening at Eastman Kodak.
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